._3bX7W3J0lU78fp7cayvNxx{max-width:208px;text-align:center} [6] However, tensions erupt during the night-hunt on Mount Muxi, when Lan Wangji and Jin Zixuan defend Mianmian from Wen Chao's order to bind and bleed her to lure out their prey. [33] But when Jin Ling is nearly killed by the Heavenly Maiden, Jiang Cheng berates him for not calling for help. But his arm was injured and perhaps it was supposed to mean that WWX was afraid LWJ would also be harmed? I mean come on @author, imagine the pain you could have made us readers feel! By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. It all started with a letter from Gusu, asking for the hand of the YunMeng Omega in marriage. Point is, I think, he knew the other dudes he was torturing were not WWX, so he just used them as dummies for his little anger problems, and when he saw WWX resurrected and shameless ofc he just wanted to release his anger, that's why he patted him gently on the back with Zidian. Manhua felt like hitting the hornets nest today OP? As a skilled doctor, Wen Qing treats Jiang Cheng but requests that they leave quickly, lest she fall under suspicion. After certain events, even though he did originally want to keep to hating Wei Wu Xian and blaming him for everything - when the big bad appeared and more things were revealed, Jiang Cheng tried to shift the blame to said villain. [14], Jiang Cheng becomes the leader of the Yunmeng Jiang Clan and begins recruiting disciples to join his clan and their rebellion against the Qishan Wen Clan. Its really hard for me to accept that WWX who w as repeatedly described as having a hero complex never felt guilty for murdering innocents, sure he might not have liked the other cultivators but he would not have been fine with just killing them when they provoked him?? Not even lan zhan could reach his spirit. They grew up as brothers, they both sacrificed themselves for each other, so theres some element of love and care for each other. Talking about this we still have some problems yet to be solved. But I think a lot of people ignore the politics of everything. However, when Jin Guangyao implies that he has long known of the golden core transfer, Jiang Cheng's composure slips. In the untamed Jiang Cheng killed him by pushing him off the cliff. I feel like we could have seen a lot more growth from WWX, but because his emotional struggle wasnt explored, I feel he didnt really grow as a person. Media However, once Wei Wuxian appears and begins to battle them, Jiang Cheng realized that Jiang Yanli is also present. As for the thirteen years of Wei Wuxian's death, Jiang Cheng captured, tortured and murdered demonic cultivators he suspected were possessed by Wei Wuxian; Lan Wangji collected and preserved the little things that reminded him of Wei Wuxian, honoring him and continuing to keep him in his heart, just as he did with his mother after death. Still, Wei Wuxian represses his feelings for Lan Wangji until Jiang Cheng accuses him, and even after, remains oblivious to Lan Wangji's love for him until Lan Xichen reveals the truth. Since Wei Wuxian was adopted by the Jiang Family, he grows a strong bond with them. I don't like the live action death because I'm always like, why didn't LWJ just fly down to WWX and save him. Web Series In the novel, he leads the siege on burial mounds that results in WWX's death. They were like brothers before everything after all. Jgraber While their relationship still is far from mended, They do get some closure when Jiang Cheng finds out Wei Wuxian sacrificed his golden core and gave it to him. Can I not hate you?! Audio Drama (JP) She embraces Jiang Cheng, appoints him the owner of the weapon, and requests that Wei Wuxian promise to protect Jiang Cheng with his life. However, Nie Mingjue mistook Jin Ling for Jin Guangyao due to their close blood relationship, and lunged for him. hahaha, let's have a look at JC's feelings by the end of the novel shall we Just how much do you owe the Jiang Sect? It would explain why each version differs . For 16 years, he has never wanted Wei Wuxian to come back. Welcome to r/MoDaZuShi! [44], Jin Ling runs away from Lotus Pier to seek Wei Wuxian, and Jiang Cheng follows to seek his nephew. Like I was prepared to be in pain. Mrs. Yu bound Wei Wuxian and Jiang Cheng with purple electricity, protecting them well, but she kept the last dignity of the . To his dismay, Yu Ziyuan orders the doors closed. I just watched the donghua version of the Founder of Diabolism, and I am still confused about how did Wei Wuxian die. [32], Jiang Cheng then harshly tells Jin Ling not to come back if he fails to capture the soul-consuming beast. before (or even as he was) dying he destroyed the amulet. I think I also saw it in some fan theories, but I believe it makes a lot of sense JC just basically being mad jealous that his brother would first go to some shit hole and Gusu than to Yunmeng To all of that, WWX doesn't seem to be sorry or wanting to apologise to him and JC is putting all the fault for Jiang sect struggles on WWX. Why would he be searching for him in the first place if he really thought WWX was really and truly dead? That's why he felt broken at the end. When Wei Wuxian ventures to the market one day, Jiang Cheng notices cultivators from the Qishan Wen Clan swarming the market. She died for this dude and you're leading a siege against him? He answersdoes it matter how I died etc..looking really sad as he said it. He also hates why Wei Wuxian has come back. Powerful as they are, death comes for everyone. JC grew up 13-16 years resenting WWX. JC is a Sect Leader. Wei Ying states this repeatedly to.someone lol Soooo if he did indeed lose the will to live and took measures to ensure his death, or was just satisfied with being dead, how was he summoned back? It should have been a simple story with a happy ending. All things said though, yea Ill just have to make do. But Ning knows no life nor undeath except to be at Wuxian's side. So at the end, JC relinquished his "old friend" and even his character song says "Zidian has no emotions, it can't understand me. [1], This, along with the fact that Jiang Fengmian holds Wei Wuxian his first night at Lotus Pier, causes Jiang Cheng to initially resent Wei Wuxian. And this was when WWX said he would always serve JC and then would be twin heroes etc. Oh boy can I redirect you to the Jiang Cheng character study thread? Mobile Game Yes. [41], Later that evening, Jiang Cheng goes looking for Wei Wuxian and is disgusted to find him under a tree, caught in an embrace with Lan Wangji. Snd Shngshu snd lit. He was Wei Ying, courtesy name Wei WuXian. S1, Ep1. Obviously Madame Yu is a huge contributor of friction - what with physically dragging Jiang Cheng between her and He runs out to distract them, and as a result, he is captured instead of Wei Wuxian. We encourage members to share their thoughts, fanworks, news and more! But I have noticed, neither in the donghua nor the novel was it ever confirmed that he died from the backfire of his army. Two ghostly figures dancing in the distance by BlueLion20. Wang Lingjiao never pretended to be a good person. Title 13.6K 731 7. But no Jiang Cheng doesn't care about that, he just wants all the Wens dead because of the actions of two people. In the untamed Jiang Cheng killed him by pushing him off the cliff. Then again, this is only a theory that I believe in. The Yunmeng Jiang Sect was obliterated. Unable to sleep their first night, Wei Wuxian slips away from the Cloud Recesses to purchase the renowned wine Emperor's Smile. It reminds me of Goro Akechi in Persona 5 in terms of the fans who don't like him being reductive of his trauma. 7.6 (175) Rate. I'd have to argue that Jiang Wanyin know's it isn't Wei Wuxian's fault, even he knew the Wen's were going to come anyway, Cloud Recesses had been burned down, the war had been declared, "In his heart, Jiang Cheng knew clearly that back in the care of the Xuanwu of Slaughter at Dusk-Creek Mountain, even if Wei Wuxian hadn't saved Lan Wangji, the Wen Sect would have found some reason to come over sooner of later." This would change NOTHING. Ultimately, he kept his mouth shut, because his pride had finally become less important to him than WWX's feelings. And thats why he told xue Yang confidently that he wont be able to bring him back. Some of it, like the Wen's attacking really wasn't anyone fault at all. Am I not supposed to hate you? The Land of Death: With Jiang Bian, Kei Gambit, Ketsu. A subset of the letters Jiang Cheng never sent to Wei Wuxian. First Lan zhan point out that the evidence at burial mounds didnt match up with the official story. I dont think hes ever actually hated him, did he want to hate him? This is what wei wuxian meant when he said a soul that no longer wants to be in this world. [16], After retaking many places in Yunmeng, Jiang Cheng joins with Lan Wangji to attack the supervisory office where Wen Chao is hiding. In the original novel : WWX actually commit suicide. .s5ap8yh1b4ZfwxvHizW3f{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);padding-top:5px}.s5ap8yh1b4ZfwxvHizW3f._19JhaP1slDQqu2XgT3vVS0{color:#ea0027} [14], Wen Ning aids Wei Wuxian's rescue of Jiang Cheng, taking both fugitives to hide with his sister Wen Qing in Yiling. Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation Wiki is a FANDOM Anime Community. [56], Hikaru Midorikawa (animation, audio drama, web series). 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And if he did hear summons over the 13yrs and ignored it why did he answer this time? I personally don't think that he believed WWX to "not die". He has a bad temper from his youth, and his father treats him distantly, holding him fewer than five times that he can remember. [8], Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji, remain trapped in the cave. Lan Wangji: In the Cloud Recesses flashback, Nie Huaisang says that he is the same age as Wei Wuxian and himself, which would be 15. And as a personal aside, it genuinely pisses me off that as lot of fans who don't like JC are very reductive of him. Since Wei Wuxian's parents died, he grew up in Jiangjia, so he got to know Jiang Cheng and Jiang Yanli. Now that's all the numbers of reasons I think Jiang Cheng wronged Wei Wuxian and others mainly because he was choosing to look the other way or because he was acting like a spoiled brat. i feel like maybe he committed suicide (at least in the anime series) through destroying the tiger seal and that's what really killed him, and it completely ripped his body apart in the process, probably from the overwhelming wrath that the amulet sucked in. Ahhhhhh. [50], Jiang Cheng appears near Gusu to save Jin Ling from a serpent-like creature, thereby encountering Wei Wuxian a second time before the Stone Castles. On the other hand, JC struggled with always being compared to WWX by the cultivation community and his family. Yes, what WWX was morally just, but it basically spelled his doom and the doom of the barely hanging on at the time Yunmeng Jiang Sect. That is a big blow. Wen Qing refuses, citing the rest of her family, whom she cannot abandon and returns the comb. Height I would guess he started to feel betrayed especially when he saw WWX with LWJ because he would have thought that WWX would come find him first. No. Plus if he really wanted him dead, he had the perfect opportunity while LWJ was holding him but he deliberately missed. Wen Qing poses as Baoshan Sanren, and Wen Ning assists his sister as she transfers Wei Wuxian's golden core into Jiang Cheng. Jiang Fengmian wore the purple robes . Episode 1 [6], At the training, Jiang Cheng warns Wei Wuxian not to start trouble after noticing that the dangerous Wen Zhuliu guards their pompous leader, Wen Chao. I think their relationship is much more complex than defining it into the binary of love and hate. You dont get to always hide behind anger and let the world burn around you, not employing a single moment of logic and faith. [48], After the death of Su She renders Nie Mingjue even more dangerous, Jiang Cheng realizes that Wei Wuxian is the only one who can save them. [13], Jiang Cheng is taken back to the Lotus Pier, where Wen Chao has him tortured and beaten. WE as the audience know WWX's thought, motivations and how he was set up/led into certain senerios. That is, ironically, what Madam Yu meant all this time but due to her own personal issues with JFM it gets lot in the bullshit. Live action changed it to censor the gore that would have happened and the anime shows the explosion and the amulet breaking but not a body ripping apart. So use WWX's ages at signficant events. (Probably the price of destroying the Stygian Amulet). in the novel and donghua, wwx destroyed the stygian seal just before he died, the seal that held control over the corpses. Eventually, he releases his martial brother and breaks down in tears. She then sens the two away, while Jiang Cheng desperately struggles. I dont think Jiang Cheng hates Wei Wu Xian - when he found out about the truth behind Wei Wu Xian cultivating the demonic path, he didnt know what to feel or how to treat Wei Wu Xian. He offends his third prospective bride, Rong Yan, by telling her that she wears unsuitable colors and that her perfume is like a noxious poison. [44], Jin Guangyao then feigns an attack against Wei Wuxian. I feel like he loves him and hates him like a brother but both feelings are intensified to like 1000, plus his natural angry self, He may have cared at one point, but his hate def outweighs any amount of love (if he even does the small amount towards wwx). This can't wait, please solve it soon." Wei Wuxian says as he finally rises from his bow. In retribution, Jin Guangyao reminds Jiang Cheng just how easily he had allowed his jealousy and pride to keep him from protecting Wei Wuxian. He then witnesses Wei Wuxian accidentally reveal his identity by using Suibian, which had sealed itself after his death. I'm more anxious. Anyway, I just have to remind myself that the author doesn't actually owe us anything so I'll just have to make do with what she gave us. [1], As a child, Jiang Cheng has three puppies named "Jasmine," "Princess," and "Love. Her mother was a prostitute taken in as a concubine by a sect leader with too many concubines already, and her entire childhood was one fight for dominance after another, woman against woman in the worst sort of way. And to those who like Jiang Cheng I hope you . Also, the lack of emotional development from wei yings perspective is so disappointing. IMO, i agree that Wei Ying committed suicide. So he did not want to return to the living. This then proceeded to be the only time they talked about their feelings lmao sure maybe they wont talk about the sacrifices theyve made for the other person, thats consistent with their characters, but really? he just feels like a clown now. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Welcome to r/MoDaZuShi! Do I think JC devoid of the bs of the world, especially his mothers bs ever hated WWX? But i agree he did not seem to want to live anymore after Jiang Yanli died, overwhelming him with grief. Then he thinks WWX killed and did lots of wrong things. ._1aTW4bdYQHgSZJe7BF2-XV{display:-ms-grid;display:grid;-ms-grid-columns:auto auto 42px;grid-template-columns:auto auto 42px;column-gap:12px}._3b9utyKN3e_kzVZ5ngPqAu,._21RLQh5PvUhC6vOKoFeHUP{font-size:16px;font-weight:500;line-height:20px}._21RLQh5PvUhC6vOKoFeHUP:before{content:"";margin-right:4px;color:#46d160}._22W-auD0n8kTKDVe0vWuyK,._244EzVTQLL3kMNnB03VmxK{display:inline-block;word-break:break-word}._22W-auD0n8kTKDVe0vWuyK{font-weight:500}._22W-auD0n8kTKDVe0vWuyK,._244EzVTQLL3kMNnB03VmxK{font-size:12px;line-height:16px}._244EzVTQLL3kMNnB03VmxK{font-weight:400;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText)}._2xkErp6B3LSS13jtzdNJzO{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;margin-top:13px;margin-bottom:2px}._2xkErp6B3LSS13jtzdNJzO ._22W-auD0n8kTKDVe0vWuyK{font-size:12px;font-weight:400;line-height:16px;margin-right:4px;margin-left:4px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._2xkErp6B3LSS13jtzdNJzO .je4sRPuSI6UPjZt_xGz8y{border-radius:4px;box-sizing:border-box;height:21px;width:21px}._2xkErp6B3LSS13jtzdNJzO .je4sRPuSI6UPjZt_xGz8y:nth-child(2),._2xkErp6B3LSS13jtzdNJzO .je4sRPuSI6UPjZt_xGz8y:nth-child(3){margin-left:-9px} [45], Jiang Cheng then turns his anger towards Jin Guangyao, especially after Jin Guangyao admits he had sent Jin Zixuan to the confrontation on Qiongqi Path, although Jin Guangyao maintains that he had not intended for Wei Wuxian to kill Jin Zixuan. Too much pain, grief and heartache after so many years. Guo Haoran (animation)Gao Shang (animation - child)Peng Yao (audio drama)Zhao Xiaojiang (audio drama - child)Wang Kai (web series) Jiang cheng and wei wuxian's complicated relationship; Summary. [28], During the night hunt on Dafan Mountain, Jiang Cheng helps set up the Deity-Binding Nets to give Jin Ling an advantage over the other cultivators. Because WWX gave his golden core to JC without a doubt, without questioning a thing. I havent thought about that before and that kind of perspective is definitely consistent with his character! Bichen was strong enough to carry both of them, but I guess they couldn't exactly show the ghost/corpse backfire on Chinese TV. After finding out that the reason WWX acted the way he did and the reason he continued with demonic cultivation even after losing control once is because he gave JC his golden core, a lot of WWX's earlier actions now look less like "WWX being an asshole for fun". He takes Jiang Cheng to a mountain and instructs him to follow a path up the mountain, where he will meet Baoshan Sanren. Jin Ling had begun to suspect years ago that there were parts of his family history that had been crossed out; long streaks of black where Wei Wuxian had been. He learnt that WWX was set up, imagine that; JC resented for 13-16 years and then suddenly learnt that his senior brother was innocent. This leaves me with the question about how did Wei Wuxian actually die? You'll forgive me if I feel, from JC's pov, he has a lot of reasons to hate WWX. "[2] However, after Wei Wuxian is brought to live at Lotus Pier around age nine or ten, Jiang Cheng's puppies are sent away due to Wei Wuxian's intense fear of dogs. You dont hurt as much as he hurt at losing WWX, at his perceived betrayals, if you hate someone. Jiang Cheng was born the second child of Yu Ziyuan and Jiang Fengmian. our next life by Marinette Cheng. [1], Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian both attend the Cloud Recesses to learn from Lan Qiren. I assume is to save time as it is not possible to cover the whole book in 35 episodes (including season 3, the final season). Jiang Cheng blames Wei Wuxian for the death of his brother-in-law when Wei Wuxian lost control of Wen Ning while learning how to control corpses. Jiang Yanli (, Jing Ynl) was the elder sister of Jiang Cheng and the elder sworn sister of Wei Wuxian. Dog will cause trouble to Wei Wuxian.cat seems better" Jiang cheng says looking at wangxian angrily. One thing that did irk me was the scene when WWX was thinking about how he died and was getting really depressed. The spiritually weak Wei Wuxian was tortured and thrown into the Burial Mounds by Wen Chao of Qishan Wen Sect, from where he returned . WWX lost control of his anger and killed JZX. We encourage members to share their thoughts, fanworks, news and more! Jin Ling divides his time between Yunmeng and Lanling. Audio Drama He uses his swimming skills to find a hole at the bottom of the pool that they can escape through and helps guide those who cannot swim out of the cave. Fairy leads him to the Guanyin Temple, where he discovers Jin Ling, Wei Wuxian, Lan Wangji, Lan Xichen, and Nie Huaisang all held captive by Su She and Jin Guangyao. The book also mentioned that the 4 clans had tried to summon his soul after he died, but he did not respond. Weapon Birthday [39], As more corpses approached, Jin Ling wished for Jiang Cheng to comfort him, but the closest Jiang Cheng came was giving his nephew Zidian, much like his mother had given it once to him. What i mean is that i am not sure how much "time" he have to deal with this guilt. They are then saved by Wei Wuxian's return as a demonic cultivator. Just before Nie Mingjue can kill him, however, Wen Ning leaps in between and takes te punch through his own chest, astonishing Jiang Cheng. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. As with any tragic hero, Ning's irreversible mistake is surrendering himself to the Jin Sect in an effort to help Wei Wuxian. (Not sure if it was mentioned in the live action that the fight was fake). Lan Zhang doesn't know how he died in the donghua. As a child, Jiang Cheng has three puppies named "Jasmine," "Princess," and "Love." However, after Wei Wuxian is brought to live at Lotus Pier around age nine or ten, Jiang Cheng's puppies are sent .