He only swept sand in between the cracks. Ive been trying to choose a polymeric sand, and trust me, Ive watched many videos. Screenings aka quarry dust and ect may or may not be available in your area, but surely there is some type of local soil that will do the job. Jim. Comment *document.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "ab7c4abf609fa1ed15dbe4a1e48f5b44" );document.getElementById("b69840f237").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); Devine Escapes is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com. The decomposed granite in the second link also looks right, but it will probably cost more. Did you set the flagstones in mortar/on top of a concrete foundation? You can choose from various materials like plastic edging or metal borders. If you simply spread out pea gravel on top of the ground, it will start to shift and move quickly. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Fine, it probably wont make it very slippery and probably wont alter its appearance all THAT much. Make sure to wear rubber gloves for protection. I have mostly smaller spaces between the stones but there are some areas up to 3 wide. Spread it liberally on top of the pea gravel then rake it in just under the surface. Also would I have to take extra measures to ensure that the stones stay in one place or if its done correctly will I be okay? On the surface, no pun intended, it seems like a bullet proof option but for my flag stone patio Im going with the stone dust option! Will this work to fill the cracks of should I attempt to find a finer material? It will crack. Couldn't other binding agents like lime/ash or cement be used? Thanks for the quick reply. Thank you for taking the time to post this for the world to see. And have fun! Flagstones tend to be larger (2x3 or 3x3), mixed with some smaller units (1x1 or 1x3). Not much sun on the walkway but Id imagine moss doesnt care that much about that. Its an old articlebut its been updated recently. My guess is that this is a type of decomposed granite or screenings? The house is in Los Angeles, California. Also want to do a seat wall in it. The two terms are often used interchangeably, but the two products should not be used interchangeably. Pea gravel is commonly used for walkways, driveways, and as filler between stone pavers around the home. How much does polymeric sand cost? We have paver sand i the joints now. The stones tend to get lodged on your shoes and are dragged into the house. Some are 10 years with no problems. Get the cement to a dry-sish mashed potato-like consistency and fill the joint, pressing down firmly. The location is climate type 9b, Northern California. The end result is a firm walking surface which is also permeable, allowing water to pass through. Portland cement should not be used. Thats limestone screenings. 1. harder to installmore complicated process. Anywhere that sells gravel/sand/mulch, usually. I wanted something that would promote drainage and have a natural look. I just need big money plus artistic license/free reign! Gravel-Lok - Amber Color - 50 Gallon. Hi We are going to try and repair some ancient stone walls on our Marthas Vineyard property. Pretty much all of my DIY consultation customers complete their patios, with the final product having much wider joints than I usually allowand then, out in california its popular to build entire walkways using nothing but stone dust. Thanks for your vet insightful information! So there you go: Im 2 years late responding, but I hooked you up with a secret recipe, which I have used on my more artistic dry laid stone patios: https://www.devineescapes.com/artistic-flagstone-patios/. Also can I expect your comment via email or simply on this site? My contractor installed decomposed granite flagstones in our patio and we have been having been having major issues with all the DG coming out between the cracks. Ready-mix concrete refers to concrete that is specifically manufactured for customers' construction projects, and supplied to the customer on site as a single product. Ive tried my best and I hope this helpseither helps you to confidently tackle the projector helps you to decide to just hire a good mason. Well yes, if a flagstone patio is pitched properly then water will flow over the flagstones and into a drain. Hey Devin- I too want to thank you for promoting not putting plastic into the environment! The patio comes off the basement door and is surround on three sides by 4-5 retaining walls, and had a 4 drain in the pave patioit was sinking especially around the drain. I found your article very interesting i was already going to use screenings but was still researching and i came accross this. Like a branching sort of design or meandering stream-like pattern. Thats kind of the main thesis of this article: do not use that stuff. It is washing out. How much foot traffic are we expecting? Yes, concrete can be poured on pea gravel, but it is important to make sure that the gravel is properly prepared. Ants? I havent filled yet because i am still adding onto it. That depends on the supplier. Sorry for the delayed responseIve been busy finishing up with the years work before the winter sets in. I also have a pea gravel area (about 20X20') that I want to stabilize. I don't know if it is chemically dog friendly. Wish I could hire you to redo my patio in New Mexico! (a careful pass with the pressure washer shouldnt damage the stones. Scrub the top of the flagstones using diluted muriatic acid, with a shop book. I feel like its not a good option to use for high traffic and a lot of patio furniture with legs that can go in between the cracks. I selected Galleries and then Flagstone Walkways, the last two images once magnified to 500% show clear images of your stone screenings. We had flagstones placed in our outdoor shower about 5 years ago. It has a broader color spectrum than crushed stone and is lighter and often less expensive. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. DIY hardscape/masonry/flagstone help rates: I am happy to offer all of these DIY flagstone articles for free. great article wish I would have read it before installing my pavers. This downward slope on each side will help with water runoff and prevent washouts. Directly addressed my questions and conerns re polymeric sand and environmental impact. pea gravel really has no place in the landscape. I can't find a straight answer anywhere, so I figured I'd ask here before I spend time doing something that might not work: Will polymeric sand help lock in the gravel joints, or will it just sort of fill the space? Re-read the article please Actually, Ill go back and edit, put a few words in bold and make it a bit more clear. One web site even suggests a 1/3 dry portland cement/breeze mix, to then be gently soaked with water that would harden up. 3. The cement coats the peagravel and gatehrs at the contact points. With the powdery dry mix you really need to push down hard with the trowel (its so dry a mix that you will not cause a problem by pushing down, firmly, theres pretty much no water to push to the surface)so its easier to goof up that method. Ive done a few jobs in maryland and the greater D.C area, and thats what Ive seen anyway. Just wondering what we should do about the paver sand underneath. Do you have any photos of the little piles? As long as were less than 1.5 inches or so, than its really not a problem. Problem. Sure, but not forever. Take a sprinkler and wet it down , it will tighten it up , still be looser stones on top. 2.5 inches over a ten foot span will be enough, provided there are no major dips. Would this work? However, if you are telling me that you have 6 of compacted road base type gravel in place, and your flagstones are on top of that, with some sand as the leveling agent..then idk, but as a professional who cant afford to have my reputation messed withId take those flagstones back up and lay in screenings. Hey Jeff. So good job. Any saw cuts i then rough up, using the same hammer technique as in the video, in order to keep it natural loooking. Anywayssince you just used local soil, and built it yourself rather than hiring a mason, we can pretty much just say Well, it may not be perfect, but its got heart!. What did I do wrong? I suppose I couldbut I just did a google image search and the results look right to me. Anyway, sorry to hear of your troubles. Gods peace. Ill probabvly be emailing you soon, to set up a consultation, as we have some questions about cutting, dealing with elevations and drainage issues, just some stuff particular to our project, and it would be good for someone to hold our hand walk us through the process, make us feel more confident about what we need to do. Hi Devin. You may get away with 2 or 4 inch jointsbut it will work better with stones fit more tightly than that. First off, thank you for all your posts. I might get a bag and experiment with a small section, maybe at the start of the driveway. A path made out of this material will be very loose, and will easily dispersed by foot traffic and weather. Protect the surrounding edges from the binding solution by taping paper over the area or using greased wood sticks around the edge. Hope that helps and I wish you good luck! The Patio is shaded except during the winter. Great article Devin, We have large slabs of Indiana ledge rock some as big as 30 sf and 4 inch thick around our pool laid with 1/4 inch tolerance laid on sand with sand between the stones sme have shift and opened gaps and tilted Its impossible to fix without big machines so I am planning just to stabilize it Screenings the best? Clean off dust and lightly dampen the old cracked polymeric sand. Its important to compact it thoroughly with a heavy-duty roller. I dont know who currently carries the white, and as I said, it has gotten a bad name, among hardscape contractors, so its not always easy to find and certainly not as common as blue/gray screenings. Maybe lay 2 inches and tamp that, lay the top layer and leave that loose. This can make the stone slippery and change its appearancewithout providing any benefit. Use a roller to compact the gravel, which also helps with stability. Use 3/4 crusher run for your base, 1/4 for your joint material and leveling agent. Digging and tamping and rakinghard work!). From reading the MSDS it appears to be a resin that forms a binding polymer unpon activation. I was not thrilled with it at the time but time and money influenced our decision. Do you think installing a border on the sides of the trench is necessary? Not polymeric, it doesnt harden. Do we start over? To lay your flagstone patio 1) set out yours tones like a puzzle, as you said. Calcium chloride or other salt substitute should be fine, but salt will deteriorate mortar. Hi Devin. Have you seen this water proofing used before to settle the quarry dust? The rest are med to med-small with a few fillers. 1 ton of screenings will do about 200 sq at 1 inch. It does dissolve some plastics, not all, so who knows? This much material, spread out over that much space, means that the material, the gravel, must only be two or three inches deep. Low void content, contains fines, is used as road foundations. or do I need to first bind the bottom of the blue stone to the old mortar base somehow - before I mortar the joints? I have pea gravel in the entire enclosure. Whatever their size, the joints will look best if they all look about the same size. I like your views and outlook so poly is out and screenings are in.not very keen on chemicals where the barefoot grandson walks! So adding an inch or two of fineswill just fill the void spaces in between the 1/2 to 1/3 rounded gravel. That depends. Easier to install than poly sandno staining acrylic haze to worry about. 6. Id never considered using steel slag for use with flagstone. Most areas are failing, so I plan on filling the gaps with stone dust. Thanks for your colorful commentary and your insight (with years and years of experience). Perhaps with the larger particles that wont be an issue? We visited a tourist attraction that had done this. We have an existing flagstone patio which was built on a layer of crushed limestone with the same in between the flagstones. But whatever the foundation is, it shouldnt develop such a vast chasm. Hi helpful article- thank you. This is a torch that is used to weld and cut steela blow torch. Thank you. Replace joint material with a mix of topsoil and gravel or stone dust. In bucks county you can get red screeningsblooming glen quarry, outside of Quakertown. Polymeric sand is usually available in grey, dark grey, and yellow-grey. Youll be fine using screenings. Ive used products before where you actually add a binder to the gravel. The manufacturer recommends clean gaps of just polymeric sand. Scroll half-way down on this link and find the section with the heading How to install stone dust in between your flagstones Sometimes people overfill their joints to begin with, then wonder why they have material spilling out onto the patioaim to have your flagstone joints filled to about an 8th of an inch lower than the top of your flagstones. It consists of 3/4 gravel mixed with the same screenings that I was speaking of in the article. What is the best way to get the cracks between the flagstones sealed? Not sure DG would drain properly with the cement base. You want to go maybe 1 deep and maybe 1/2 wide. The PO had installed pea gravel in the planting beds; in some areas it was more than 4 inches deep--I hated it. Cheers! Maybe half of those patios also have limestone screenings as the leveling agenthalf an inch to inch and a half limestone screenings beneath the flagstones as well as an inch or so on either side of the stones (the joints)never once have I seen a freeze-thaw issue, or any cracked flagstones on any of these jobs. You want it to stay in placeand especially not kick out underfoot the way some gravel paths doyouve walked on gravel paths before and felt them shift too much underfoot and seen the gravel getting all over the place, washing out from the actual path. Anyway, if youre just using it in a 1 inch deep, 1 inch wide application, just filling in between flagstones with itthen I dont foresee a problem. and you want to come up with a dry joint, that has the same color. As far as separation along the cracks goesthis is a matter of technique, not of product. One of the benefits of a gravel driveway is that it is relatively inexpensive to install, typically around $1-$3 per square foot. Do you have any comments on how to best drain this so it doesnt continue to settle after i install the flagstones? Any idea where we could look for some advice? What if we just remove some and place screenings on top of sand? I like this idea but they are quite an expensive solution to fix this $32 load of gravel 2. In any event, it didnt get quite cleaned up enough/soon enough. Id remove the polymeric sand and replace with decomposed granite, stone dust, 1/4 minus/whatever they call it in your area. It already has plasticizers added into the mix, to increase workbility and stickiness, no need to add lime. I know, you said youre not into sandneither am I, for flagstone joints. I have a circle design using left-over holland pavers; so there are cracks. Would you do a combination something? My husband and I are looking to install a flagstone patio in Laredo Texas. Lots sell stone dust which is grey. I intend to lay one 12 x 5 long 2 inch thick tread on top of the cinder block. Any idea how to remove the haze from the pavers? For more information, please see our Polymeric sand is basically sand mixed with an acrylic binder. But sand wont help and if you do not want to do it proper to begin withthen what you already have is probably fine. Small voids may form. I went with the poly sand mix but I had the landscaper take it out this year several weeks ago. There are some joints approaching 1 inch. But the mortar beneath the stones will likely crack, making wobbly stones sitting on cracked hard cement. Montana and Pennsylvania both have serious winters, that cause soils to heave and settle. Very useful information. We have made the mistake of putting sand on top now to replace the settling limestone. I have had issues with weeds growing like crazy and for the past few years I have had digger wasps boring holes and burying their eggs in the holes. I was thinking of the polymeric hardening sand before reading your advice here and Im thinking screenings (Decomposed Granite I think is what its listed at in Lowes) might still seem attractive to the dogs if it is very loose like sand. Wait, wait, youre saying lots of stones move when stepped on. Quikrete Assorted All-Purpose Gravel 50 lb. If there are a lot of weeds present, you may want to add a barrier of landscape fabric between the base rock and the pea gravel. Thanks! Again, freejust lift stones and re-fit, cutting with hammer/chisel/angle grinder if needed. Ditto what had been said here about using pea gravel. Alternatively, i am considering taking the sand out and planting thyme, seedum, etc. Also on my jobs the joints are maybe an inch wide, or less.Ive seen other hardscapes where the flagstones have 3 gaps between themtry keeping anything in there. It is just what I was after and while the pea gravel has the "look" it does not have the stability. Remove all the polymeric sand from in between the flagstonesget it all out of there. And then simply add screening as you instruct on your website? Ive never studied it, never used it for a client and been unable to study its utility over the yearswhich is a major omission on my part. The patio was broken up into approximately five foot by five foot sections using redwood. With large gaps like that, this is the best that can be doneis find a way to get the slope corrected. Just shy of the top. Using decomposed granite will help the pea gravel set and not move when people walk on it. Some people try and solve this problem with plastic edging. The mix is not a slurry and is very hard to tell from damp gravel. Can I sweep stone dust into the cracks now instead of sand? Related Content: How Much Does Pea Gravel Cost? Psyllium husk joint binder is, as far as I can tell, a lot more natural than an acrylic based product. They also connected the various sections with #4 re-bar so the patio is pretty stable as one piece. Extremely helpful. I have been extremely happy with it -- it looks great and has stayed neat, clean, and stable for two years now. I used stone dust under as a base and then screened gravel (sand). Is there a solution I can spray on and use myself? Scroll down to the heading that says How to install stone dust in between your flagstones. Take your time and get out what you can. I just have to tell you . Ive heard and read about some concerns about the limestone breaking down the flag over time, as well as concerns for efflorescence. 903 landscape supply is the place: https://www.903inc.com/. Can you suggest how I might fill in what was removed? But, it depends on the scene, and on your preferences.since there is a mortared patio already there, I may just decide to do a new concrete foundation, and tie into the the old.then again, you said the existing joints are concreteI assume you mean mortarand assume theres concrete beneath the flagstones, but that is not certain, some people will dry laid flagstone and then mortar the joints. What I use is stone dust AKA screenings. Brett in Millersville,PA. Voles, moles, or mice were causing the damage. Fill the joints with stone dust/aka screenings, decomposed granite, ectthe same stuff you should use to level the stones out with. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, http://www.alliancegator.com/2011/gator-stone-bond/, http://www.alliancegator.com/2011/gator-rock-bond-liquid-binding-agent/, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. So you may or may not have seen this article, where I talk about how I do not recommend sealing flagstone. Fly me out there and Ill make em fit nice, get some local ahem pro to do it right or maybe try some ground cover planting. Do you love it? Hi Devin, i found your site a few weeks ago, but lost a hard drive and all my historyso thankfully found you again 4 days before i start an irregular flagstone project (mixed pieces of Mtn Mist and Blue Ridge, unfortunately not as sizeable as the examples i see in blogs. Hi Devin. One stone at a time. We probably will use large pre cut 2x3ft, 2x2ft and 21.5ft rectangular size stones. If the foundation is nominal, then there may be shifting. On impulse, I created a design, using a few large pieces of flagstone, in the centre of the patio. But what do you do if you need to fix cracking polymeric sand? What I do is I sweep stone dust/screenings in-between the flagstones, filling the joints until the stone dust is even with the top of the flagstone then I hose it down and off. Concrete is your best bet. Some areas are shaded by tress, and some by the house, which I think contributes to algae growth. Your email address will not be published. I find cleaning up the solids simple with a disposable glove and plastic bag. Stone dust, all week long my friend. White/cream color us also available at some masonry supply places. Countless homeowners have done everything that they can to transform their houses into smart homes. Dear Devin, Great thread. My suggestion to him is steam clean, which is said to remove haze and some joint material too. Consequently, when you place chairs or tables on the gravel, it is less likely to be unsteady and cause furniture to fall over. In a few places where pressure washing has removed the soil, I filled the joints with the rock screening you recommend. Natural flagstone, concrete paver and ceramic brick patios and walkways are set upon gravel foundations, their joints then need to be filled. Hello: I just read your article regarding polymeric sand use, thank you for your thoughts on this. I was planning on Breeze but hear it will be tracked into the house and wash away. We just moved in a year ago. Re-lay on stone dust/pathway fines/DG.they sell it in your area, but since I dont know your area I can not tell you the local name. I was thinking something like this might work. No offense, but if you went through all the trouble to lay your paver base in the first . Natural dirt could mean any combinations of these soil types. If you used screenings as both the leveling agent and as the joint filler, this is no big deal. Halsted White Sand & Utility Bags 50 lb. Is there a means to just patch the cracks? Plus, get an extra 20% off with code GIFT20, Fine Homebuilding Issue #313 Online Highlights, The Fine Homebuilding Interview: James Metoyer, 10 Steps to Install Crown Molding on Cabinets, Choosing the Right Construction Tape for the Job, Expert insights on techniques and principles. Can you help me understand the difference between decomposed granite and screenings? Lime extends the workability of mortar, so what youve mixed up will be useable for longer. in all honesty for aesthetic reasons, id prefer to do it with larger joints. hi, I just finished building a house with permeable driveway. Id just power wash the whole thing., some joint material may bust loose just from the water.Then Id take a large flathead screwdriver and start prying out joint material. But okay, if youre going to live with what you have then yea, stone dust is a much better option than poly sand. For the most part the patio is sunken 1 inch compared to the barrier strip. Hi, the home we own in Colorado has a really large flagstone patio but the previous owner never put in any fillers. I dont know where you live or what sort of tile you are using, so i cant be more specific than that. To solve this issue, apply WD-40 after wiping off the bottom of the tamper. Incredible. What do you suggest for front stair edges to prevent the stone from being tippy? Glad you found the article useful! Given how unpleasant it is to walk on screenings with bare feet, what would your suggestion be for spaces that are greater than 3? Do you need hardscape help? from what Im able to google on the matter, Im pretty sure 1/4 inch minus is graded properly to be used as a joint material. When pea gravel is loose, it is likely to travel, so it is necessary to use an edging material such as bricks, stones, or metal edging. Weve been building an Idaho quartz stone (2.5 d medium & smaller size flag stones) patio. Your email address will not be published. I suppose that may be the same thing as mortar mix, but I'm not sure. Still, a leaf blower is your best tool for clearing pea gravel, since . Thanks! More info: Taking care of your stone patio, A flagstone patios joints can never be truly flush with the top of the stone. The result might be messy, but would probably be a good base for something else (brick or stone?). No acrylic, plastic, or polymers are required in your project. Thanks in advance. But then, it its still more rigid and solid than we want, for flagstone joints. Is this stone in question local, or otherwise desireable to you? Theres also some mention of stabilized decomposed granite. White screenings are made from limestoneand crushed limestone has a bad name, in the hardscaping industry, because it tends to hold water. Step 1 - Prepare the Patio Measure the area of your patio that contains the pea gravel, and use this measurement to order the correct amount of binding solution material needed. The price does vary from store to store and from region to region. I never recommend sealing flagstone. Would appreciate your thoughts! Is it well compacted? I understand that stabilized granite actually predates polymeric sand and that there is such thing as stabilized decomposed granite made with *psyllium husks, but that the term stabilized decomposed granite can refer to DG stabilized with various binders. It also creates a creamier, stickier mix that a lot of guys prefer. Once again, tamp the decomposed granite until it does not move. Best way that Ive found to remove that sort of haze is to just use a power washer. Wanted advice for DIY backyard basketball court of size 42 feet wide and 28 feet long. Yes I have run experiments oin differenat areas of the patio and have used different amts of water with the same results. Truthfully our joints are a bit wider than you suggest. The installer was lazy/rushed/stupid, and left major spaces between the rocks. Now they want to put a sealer over that! Seriously, how much rain did you get? Half inch, quarter inch, eighth an inchany of those would workso long as they have fines3/8 is what I usually use, but I work around the country, and sizes/names vary slightly yet every place Ive been wcarries something like this. I was thinking about trying a 4' wide path going back to the horse barn. SawStop's Portable Tablesaw is Bigger and Better Than Before, Podcast 530: PRO TALK With Architecture Student Phillip Schladweiler, Podcast 529: Cold Floors, Galvanic Corrosion, and Siding Over Board Sheathing. work the soil to a depth of approximately 5 to 6 inches, How To Keep Gravel In Place In A Driveway. Encourage moss to grow there. I can confidently Just sitting on a little sand and a lot of clay. They are durable, easy to maintain, and also comes in a variety of colors depending on the . Take your time planning.consider taking a workshop if theres one available in your area. 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